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Stawell Handicaps released

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1 Stawell Handicaps released on Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:28 pm

floater


http://www.val.org.au/Handicaps.aspx

2 Re: Stawell Handicaps released on Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:04 pm

Scoop


So many obvious mistakes. Have these marks even been proof read? Let alone checked?

3 Re: Stawell Handicaps released on Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:34 pm

El Chapo Guzman


El Chapo assumes the handicap review panel would have triple checked each of the handicaps and feel confident of their accuracy? Especially with a release 2.5 weeks before the event, and the obvious high amount of scrutiny that comes with such a release.
A possible additional look might be worthwhile Shocked

Maybe VAL admin could replace the Ringwood handicaps to the website? Seems to have disappeared this afternoon. No Sad

4 Re: Stawell Handicaps released on Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:51 pm

Scoop


If that was the case then how do runners with 20.9 pb's have 6m in the 200 when ceiling time is 20.8? Blind Freddy can see those kinda mistakes

5 Re: Stawell Handicaps released on Thu Mar 30, 2017 11:30 pm

El Chapo Guzman


Right you are Scoop. Each of the 6m runners also have differing pbs. El Chapo also can see some other variances in the 200m after comparing the Maryborough and Stawell entrants. Some lucky and some not so....

Kerr M17. S13. - 4

Blake M25. S22. - 3
Jackson M15. S12. - 3

Carter M8. S6. - 2. 6th new year
Dunbar M13. S11. -2
Nettlefold M12. S10. - 2
T.Martin M27. S26. - 2
Rosen M20. S18. - 2. 1st new year
Tancredi M14. S12. - 2
Voumard M18. S16. - 2

Rogers M26. S25. - 1

Blood M10. S10. 0
Boudrie M10. S10. 0
Brittain M11. S11. 0
Gilmore M10. S10. 0
Hargreaves M16. S16. 0
Harvey M17. S17. 0. 2nd new year
Howard M23. S23. 0
Phelan M14. S14. 0
Yeung M16. S16. 0

Armour M15. S16 + 1
Boyle M27. S28. + 1
Brown M18. S19. + 1
Cohen M24. S25. + 1
Diegen M19. S20. + 1
Ireland M24. S25. + 1
Keast M13. S14. + 1
Kelly M13. S14. + 1
Kirk M12. S13. + 1
Little M18. S19 + 1
Macgibbon M7. S8. + 1
Mitchell M13. S14. + 1
Paull M13. S14. + 1. 7th new year
Spencer M13. S14. + 1. 5th new year
Stephens M28. S29 + 1
Tiu M14. S15. + 1. 8th new year
Vi M14. S15. + 1
J.Whittaker M15. S16. + 1

Downes M20. S22 +2
Hignett M17. S18. + 2
Hughes M22. S24. + 2. 3rd new year
Sharma M22. S24. + 2
Turner M10. S12. + 2

Clohessy M17. S20. + 3
Haigh M24. S27 + 3

6 Re: Stawell Handicaps released on Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:54 am

Scoop


Some of these movements are completely random and make no sense. Great analysis El Chapo. That on top of the mistakes to a lot of amateur 200m runners make me believe the 200's are just completely wrong and will be redone.

7 Re: Stawell Handicaps released on Fri Mar 31, 2017 1:10 pm

Frontie


Scoop wrote:Some of these movements are completely random and make no sense. Great analysis El Chapo. That on top of the mistakes to a lot of amateur 200m runners make me believe the 200's are just completely wrong and will be redone.

Don't count on things being redone LOL usually done for a reason!

8 Re: Stawell Handicaps released on Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:05 pm

Scoop


You can't handicap amateur runners metres below ceiling time! Has to be redone

9 Re: Stawell Handicaps released on Fri Mar 31, 2017 8:35 pm

El Chapo Guzman


See if you can work out who is best placed after reading the following from the hcp regulations....
"If the athlete has competed on 5 or more occasions over the last 5 years over 200 in the VAL, their best 200 RPM over the last 5 years (3 years for veteran athletes) will be used to determine the starting handicap. If the athlete has competed on less than 5 occasions over 200 in the VAL, their best RPM over all sprint distances in the last 5 years will be used to determine their 200 start mark."

So how have some current entrants performed in the last 3 - 5 years @ Stawell: - (Sub 21s)
Blake 22 - 20.84 (23) 2013, 20.34 (25) 2012
Cooper 19 - 20.78 (20) 2013
Dunbar 11 - 20.62 (13) 2014
Eddy 14 - 20.94 (14) 2013
Eschebach 9 - 20.52 (13) 2014
Flood 19 - 20.72 (22) 2015
Gillson 13 - 21.00 (13) 2016
Greenough 16 - 21.00 (13) 2013
Hughes 24 - 20.76 (24) 2016
Ireland 25 - 20.83 (24) 2014
Kelly 14 - 20.99 (12) 2013
J.Newman 11 - 20.81 (13) 2016
T.Newman 11 - 20.80 (13) 2016
Nettlefold 10 - 20.94 (14) 2016
Macgibbon 8 - 20.67 (11) 2013
R.Matthews 18 - 20. 63 (19) 2014
Magree 16 - 20.64 (15) 2013
Paavola 14 - 20.94 (13) 2013
Phelan 14 - 20.88 (16) 2016
Stevens 4 - 20.82 (6) 2014
Tancredi 12 - 20.94 (14) 2013
Whitney 13 - 20.99 (14) 2015

10 Re: Stawell Handicaps released on Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:36 pm

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I have gone over the marks many times and seen many errors. The 200m analysis above is a good one. There would likely be some disappointed athletes. One question I would like to ask is how do you win one of the biggest 70m events and not get pulled at all. The time was adjusted to below the ceiling and by adding the track allowance is still very quick. I thought it would be cold at Easter but now I think there will be a blizzard on the podium.

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