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Bendigo 120m Marks. Lots of lifts

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1 Bendigo 120m Marks. Lots of lifts on Mon Mar 07, 2016 3:57 pm

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Lots of lifts for Bendigo. Athletes in finals getting lifts. Athletes not in finals get nothing or less than others. 0.25 to 0.50.
Bendigo 120m Gift
Nathan Riali 4
Tom Templeton 4.25
Matthew Wiltshire 4.25
Andrew Robinson 4.5
Luke Houlihan 4.75
Ben Mispelhorn 5
Tim Rooke 5
Zach Nelson 6
Augustine Carty-Cowling 6.5
Robert Vidler 6.5
Carl Morehouse 6.75
Kevin Brittain 7
Ben Kirk 7
Dale Woodhams 7
Daniel Sonsini 7.25
thibaud bertelli 7.5
River Robson 7.5
nathan ryan 7.5
Paul Cracroft-Wilson 7.75
Shaun Hargreaves 7.75
Oliver Wurm 7.75
Hamish Adams 8
Rory Plant 8
Mitchell White 8
Mohamad Zeed 8
Michael Bull 8.5
Cam Dunbar 8.5
SAJEETHAN NALLAVAIRAN 8.5
Craig Rollinson 8.5
DANIEL STEINHAUSER 8.5
Joshua Tiu 8.5
Connor Verrall 8.5
Ryan Camille 8.75
Jack Doderico 8.75
Christopher Hargreaves 8.75
Sean Law 8.75
Paddy McDonald 8.75
Dion Paull 8.75
Jason Bailey 9
Simon Chan 9
Simon Jackson 9
Kristerfer Kardakovski 9
Daniel Nemeth 9
Dean Stojanovic 9
Dean Wiggins 9
Blake Bailey 9.25
Dylan Hicks 9.25
Tom Paavola 9.25
Rhys Parkinson 9.25
Noddy Angelakos 9.5
David Gross 9.5
Charlie Moran 9.5
Aaron Pengelly 9.5
Ryan Clohessy 9.75
Rupert Lugo 9.75
Craig Mair 9.75
Leigh Phelan 9.75
Fraser Heard 10
Dean Dobric 10.25
Dale Lyons 10.25
Lachlan Taylor 10.25
Jarrad Dartnall 10.5
Chris Diegan 10.5
Nick Magree 10.5
Michael Voumard 10.5
Matthew Harvey 10.75
Craig Foley 11.25
William Little 11.5
Marcus Cooper 11.75
Rob Lehmann 11.75
John Cara 12
Darren Whittaker 12.25
Tim Potter 13
Walter Pasquali 13.25
TIM ROSEN 13.25
Shane Quinn 13.5
Paul Hughes 14.25
Todd Ireland 15
DAVID TRUDGIAN 15.75
GLENN STEPHENS 16.5

2 Re: Bendigo 120m Marks. Lots of lifts on Mon Mar 07, 2016 5:53 pm

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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Keilor mark - 7.25m
Geelong - Didn't run
Euroa - Didn't run
Bendigo mark - 7.75m

0.5m lift for not running, it's a good life for some!

3 Re: Bendigo 120m Marks. Lots of lifts on Tue Mar 08, 2016 8:10 am

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Keilor to Bendigo, 37 lifts in marks. Unlucky if you ran Keilor and didn't get a lift for Bendigo. Even Keilor finalists got lifts.

4 Re: Bendigo 120m Marks. Lots of lifts on Tue Mar 08, 2016 8:22 am

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Some of you guys really need to get your head around the handicapping system and how it works.

5 Re: Bendigo 120m Marks. Lots of lifts on Tue Mar 08, 2016 8:41 am

airtight

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I know exactly how it works. It's like the meat tray raffle at the pub. The more tickets you buy the more chances of winning. Even if you won it the week before you can still win it this week, just buy more tickets. Even if you win lots of meat trays you still have a better chance than someone who never wins it, by buying more tickets.

6 Re: Bendigo 120m Marks. Lots of lifts on Wed Mar 09, 2016 3:27 pm

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Phantom i am quite happy to sit down with you and have you explain to me how all the handicappers work

7 Re: Bendigo 120m Marks. Lots of lifts on Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:27 pm

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Thirty-seven athletes lifted overall. Only two athletes were pulled back in the marks from Keilor. The winner, naturally and Dylan Hicks has gone back 0.50m.

If you recall Dylan was in the first Keilor Gift heat and got shafted after a false start. Ran 80m before he was told and had to return to the start to run the heat again within 3mins. Basically he did a 200m split run (80/120). Naturally he didn't make the semis.

And today I heard from Hicksy that after an enquiry, the re-handicap was not a mistake.

He didn't receive an NAP or UP but will start from a mark .50m less than he had at Keilor.

Maybe someone (Phantom?) could enlighten us how the system works for a bloke who will turns 35 later this year, and has never won a Victorian Gift in 15 years of visiting the state and after the farce he endured at Keilor gets pulled half a metre.

 


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8 Re: Bendigo 120m Marks. Lots of lifts on Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:47 am

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Sorry Youngy, can't provide any logical reason for Hicksy and from what I've seen neither could the VAL.

In regard to the vast majority of the lifts though I'm sure they all fall in line with the handicap system which is pretty straightforward (whether we like it or not).

9 Re: Bendigo 120m Marks. Lots of lifts on Thu Mar 10, 2016 10:18 am

Mex

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All interstate athletes are OGA. A lift, or a pull in this instance, can be issued after each run. Not sure if it was warranted, but it is within the guidelines.

10 Re: Bendigo 120m Marks. Lots of lifts on Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:17 am

SANCHEZ


I would have thought a 1/2m pull for a 35 year old who hasn't won , nor received an NAP or UP is extremely tough. Especially given the fact that some obvious deadens earlier in the season received Up's but no handicap adjustment.

11 Re: Bendigo 120m Marks. Lots of lifts on Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:52 am

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Yes Mex, it might be within the rules but that doesn't make it right.

I don't know why handicappers want to create problems that weren't there to begin with.

It's patently obvious that pulling Dylan Hicks' mark achieved absolutely nothing in the context of the VAL Gift landscape other than to make him uncompetitive and incapable of now winning a Gift. And I would have thought given how many VAL athletes have multiple Gifts to their name, putting a bloke into the mix for his first Gift win might have come into the equation. But apparently not.

I've had a few similar issues myself this year where I might have over-analysed something or over-reacted to a result. Where a query has been made and the points raised were valid, I've been keen to rectify it. I can't see the point of having a disgruntled athlete where if I make the correction, everyone's happy.


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