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Equality sought for Ballarat Womens Gift

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1 Equality sought for Ballarat Womens Gift on Thu Jan 22, 2015 7:40 pm

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2 Re: Equality sought for Ballarat Womens Gift on Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:25 am

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Stonnington equal prizemoney- in city venue

2014
Men- 14 heats, 110 entries, 1 women entry (scratched)
Women- 8 heats, 62 entries

2013
Men- 13 heats, 105 entries, 2 women entries (both scratched)
Women- 7 heats, 55 entries

I think that says it all.

3 Re: Equality sought for Ballarat Womens Gift on Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:24 am

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it doesn't happen in any other sport, so unfortunatley for the ladies, I wouldn't expect wholesale changes when it comes to the pro running scene

4 Re: Equality sought for Ballarat Womens Gift on Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:43 pm

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Sorry, I think this has been mentioned before but isn't the Gift open to all athletes? It is not men only so women can enter too. All ages and all inclusive so there is no need for parity is there?

5 equality on Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:46 pm

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where does equality start and finish,nomination fees at stonnington for ladies is less than mens ,why would that be.
if the ladies would like extra money in races why not go out and raise extra from sponsors,i'm sure that this would be achievable,

or an alterative is pool money from male and female gift then divide equally,let the minority share the spoils unequally

6 Re: Equality sought for Ballarat Womens Gift on Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:39 pm

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So, for the sexist posts previous, if we look at SAAL, should the junior male and female athletes be racing for MORE prize-money that then Open or Women races? Your argument is invalid, it doesn't stack up here. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with amount of entries in a race or or entry fee to be paid. Best you read up on the equality and discrimination laws before posting uneducated remarks.

An Open Gift is open to all, yes, but it is also restricted to a degree by handicap limit and entry fee, but essentially, ANY registered athlete who meets the age requirement, can enter "Open" anything.
However, when the prize-money offered is equal for both sexes (Stonnington & Queanbeyan), then, AND ONLY THEN, can it be exclusively, male and female events.

Seems there are still too many people threatened by the idea that a female might be able to win the same $$$ as a male. This attitude is the very reason behind sexism in the first place.  Sexism is embedded in sport, and you are the reason for it's continuity.

To say it doesn't happen in any other sport is incorrect, Wimbledon, since 2007, offers equal prize-money to both men and women. There is still a very large pay gap and recognition gap in the sporting landscape throughout the world.

The Daily Life reported a case concerning Ellyse Perry, who has represented Australia internationally in both cricket and soccer. A meme was posted highlighting her success and the responses that followed were absolutely appalling. One of the less offensive was “She must have a really long chain to reach a cricket pitch”. Although many would argue that the comments were “trolls”, the fact that Perry’s name is not well known exemplifies how little attention sportswomen are given.

How are these replies any different to segregating races due to abilities? Should there be caucasian only events and separate, lesser events for non-caucasian? And because the non-caucasian is the minority, they should not be entitled to the same prizemoney. This argument is no different.

Get over your sexist attitude and remember, we all have two arms, two legs and heartbeat. Equality should be the common goal.


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7 Re: Equality sought for Ballarat Womens Gift on Sat Jan 24, 2015 5:08 pm

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No one was being sexist, if you watched the news story it was all about the assumption of better numbers if the $$ was the same & and clearly we have seen that despite the presumption that entry numbers would be better if there was prizemoney parity, in the real world it doesn't happen.

If you were a business putting up the $16k what would you want?
62 entries or 110?

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