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Handicappers SAAL 2014/15

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1 Handicappers SAAL 2014/15 on Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:49 pm

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Leon Burckhardt will remain the sprint handicapper for Open, Women and Novice races.

Simon Thompson will remain the sprint handicapper for Over 35 and Over 45 races.

Paul Young has been appointed as the new junior sprint handicapper for Under 14, Under 17 and Under 20 races (and Junior Bay Sheffield).

Gary Zeuner will remain the Distance handicapper.

2 Re: Handicappers SAAL 2014/15 on Mon Aug 25, 2014 4:59 pm

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Just a quick heads up on the junior sprint handicapping.

We're working on net times, novice marks and limits for the junior sprint events. These will be announced some time in October.

One thing that is planned is that every junior sprint race will be handicapped with a scratch marker in mind. The days of the under-age sprint races being run faster than the equivalent open event on the same day are over.

In respect to an actual scratch marker in every junior sprint event, it may not pan like that exactly, as it depends on the standard of the fastest athlete entered in the event, but the closer we can get athletes running the advertised distance of the event, the better spectacle it will be. Hence the idea that limits to be introduced into junior sprint events. Eg: I don't expect anyone to be running off handicaps like 100m plus in a 400m in any junior event. I'm anticipating a limit to be around 20% of the distance. That's just a ball park figure. At this stage I'm going through all the average times for athletes in different ages to determine appropriate starting marks.

Good luck for the season.


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3 Re: Handicappers SAAL 2014/15 on Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:22 pm

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Best of luck Youngy in trying to explain this one to the PARENTS of the little ones Laughing Laughing

4 Re: Handicappers SAAL 2014/15 on Tue Aug 26, 2014 9:01 am

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I'm not sure what needs explaining.  

What ever it is..........it will be a lot easier to explain than an U/20's 400m being run in 44.20. OR an Under 17's 300m being run in 33.28s when the open athletes can't break 34.5s on the same track.

Anyone who thinks it's OK for junior events to be run faster than open events, has rocks in their head. The times need to reflect the standard. The higher the standard, the faster the times. I really should not have to explain basic common sense, but if I do, so be it.


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5 Re: Handicappers SAAL 2014/15 on Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:43 pm

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Youngy ,youve missed the point what am getting at.

Try explaining to a Novice parent why their little one, runs off 10m one week then 8.5 the next week, because the scratch mark athlete can change from week to week as it is worked out every week from those that enter.

It all sits well with me and I can see the logic behind it all.

A couple of glaring examples last season was the under age 400m at SHC and the fact that the Junior Bay Sheff could have been won by an athlete in excess of 30m.

Just hope you have a good set of earplugs.

6 Re: Handicappers SAAL 2014/15 on Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:14 pm

racingmania


I assume all little ones have coaches. Its the coach's job to explain how handicapping works to the parents and kids.
Handicapper can't be wasting time talking to parents who know bugger all.

7 Re: Handicappers SAAL 2014/15 on Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:37 pm

S.hill


Thought there would be more chat on here about the possibility of a 3 day bay sheffield and the introduction of a 300m!
What are people's thoughts?
Also is there a SAAL schedule out yet?

8 Bay Sheffield Carnival 2014 on Mon Sep 01, 2014 6:50 pm

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Good to see the final SAAL calendar posted today retaining the original 2 day format for 2014. Was refraining from posting on this topic but very glad sanity has prevailed for 2014. As I and my athletes had already booked our flights and motels 4 months ago, changing the format without proper consultation with all competing athletes would have been a disaster. Many I have spoken to shared the same view. Bring on December... Very Happy

9 Re: Handicappers SAAL 2014/15 on Mon Sep 01, 2014 9:12 pm

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floater wrote:Good to see the final SAAL calendar posted today retaining the original 2 day format for 2014. Was refraining from posting on this topic but very glad sanity has prevailed for 2014. As I and my athletes had already booked our flights and motels 4 months ago, changing the format without proper consultation with all competing athletes would have been a disaster. Many I have spoken to shared the same view. Bring on December... Very Happy


Good to hear you are back again this year Floater, I think theres a sash that may have your name on it Laughing
The thing Im worried about the SAAL Calendar is I dont know how to tell the missus Im going to TTG for the athletics on FEB 14TH rather than out for a Valentine dinner.Crying or Very sad

10 Re: Handicappers SAAL 2014/15 on Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:23 am

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Not quite sure if thats going to work JH ,looks like offering to wash the dishes for quite a few weeks may be a better option.
Im interested to hear how our old mate Over35s ,now Over 45 is going to get around this one Laughing

11 Re: Handicappers SAAL 2014/15 on Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:56 am

Graeme Lebroy


Will they still have a 300 on the two day Bay Sheffield program?

Normally I don't head over because there are no middle events on the card but I would consider going for a 300.

12 Re: Handicappers SAAL 2014/15 on Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:52 pm

S.hill


No middle events? Surely you aren't classing 550m as long distance

13 Re: Handicappers SAAL 2014/15 on Thu Sep 04, 2014 3:06 pm

Graeme Lebroy


If you ring a bell in a race its a distance race....

14 Re: Handicappers SAAL 2014/15 on Thu Sep 04, 2014 5:35 pm

S.hill


You would ring a bell in a 400m at the bay does that make it distance Wink

15 Re: Handicappers SAAL 2014/15 on Fri Sep 05, 2014 4:47 pm

ToM

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c.judd wrote:You would ring a bell in a 400m at the bay does that make it distance Wink
Most assuredly so. Anything longer than 120m is a distance event!

16 Re: Handicappers SAAL 2014/15 on Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:14 pm

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We might have to do something to entice the hopeless romantics to TTG, nothing like taking your wife out for dinner and having the famous TTG burger? Its like the Adelaide Cup....a night at the races!
PS I think the handicapping will be much better for the young ones Youngy, agreed times quicker than the open makes no sense.

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