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1 Re: St Bernards Marks on Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:57 pm

runningfan


How is it possible that Lauren Goder could be starting behind Maurer and murphy? They are 5 secs quicker over 300m? I know secran well at Stonnington over 400m but this still doesn't make much sense to me?

2 Re: St Bernards Marks on Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:09 am

vicinsider


Surely a 2012 stawell gift finalist can't run a $750 100m event this weekend off a mark which is only 0.25m LESS than what he made the GIFT final with, surely not going that bad? Will turn up to stawell with more this year vs last year when made final! Has done it beautifully!

3 Re: St Bernards Marks on Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:34 pm

DizzyRunner


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DizzyRunner's final field, not in order, for this Sunday's 1000m St Bernard's event.


6049 Justin MURPHY BOX HILL 38
2143 James DEANE RINGWOOD NORTH 44
1994 Neil BRENNAN BRIGHTON 50
5576 Alexander BACALJA SOUTH YARRA 60
0109 David HAIGH SANDRINGHAM 76
5885 Tom KELLY ASCOT VALE 90
0263 Gordon MUIR WOODEND 90
7094 Andrew SOLTYS BRUNSWICK WEST 120
0354 Christopher BROWN ATTWOOD 132
0115 Peter NODEN EAGLEHAWK 148

Top 3 to come from Brown, Soltys and Kelly

Let the tipping season begin.

4 Re: St Bernards Marks on Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:32 pm

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The 1k handicaps seem to be calculated based on 800m marks. As a result, the winner is likely to come from someone who is currently competitive over 800m and will enjoy the distance increase.

Matt Grant (34m): Battling in 800s at the moment and won’t like distance increase. Ran Milers Club 1k in December and could only manage 2.39.7. Look to the 300m instead.
Justin Murphy (38m): Super competitive in 800s but has stayed away from the mile this season, so distance increase might hurt. If it was an 800m would start fav in this field so still likely to final and feature in the finish. Unless of course he decides to run the 300m W/V instead?
Michael Marantelli (42m): Little away from it in 800s at present but step up in distance suits. Ran 2.30.4 at Milers Club in same race as Grant. A run of a similar nature probably goes close to winning it but might not have that same speed at this point in time.
James Deane (44m): Has returned to his Stawell winning form of a few years back. Before the pull for winning Keilor probably would win, now the task becomes a little harder. Likely still to final.
Neil Brennan (50m): Showed great form in the 800m at Ballarat and then performed admirably in the Keilor 1600m, suggesting the step up in distance won’t be a problem. Certain finalist and strong winning chance.
Ian Burrows (58m): Yet to hit his straps so far this year but is starting to improve and one would think will be suited by the step up to 1000m. Chance to final.
Arron Downes (60m): 2.44.8 at Milers Club, unlikely to be in the finish based on that performance. Chances of reaching final likely to come down to how many litres of ice cream he puts away tonight. If he can stick to only a litre, will final, unfortunately I saw him exiting Coles with the 4L jumbo tub tucked under his arm.
Alex Bacalja (60m): An interesting one. Has struggled over 800m this season but is showing strong form over the longer stuff. Extra 200m puts him into finals contention but think the handicap is still a little tight.
Indiana Cooper (66m): Up and down season as you’d expect from a young kid. If he reproduces his Ringwood Novice form he’ll be competitive but appears to be a little out of his depth here.
Phillip O’Brien (76m): Showed promise early but has gone off the radar in recent times. Prefer others.
David Haigh (76m): Battling away in the 800m but is a definite smokey in the mile. As a result, can’t be discounted over 1k. In fact, he might just win. It is penalty free after all!
Joshua Sait (76m): Will enjoy the step up to 1k but still too short.
John Morris (88m): Cashed in early with some strong form in December / January. Since then, hasn’t improved at the same rate as his competitors.
Tom Kelly (90m): Like the three Hippo boys, one of only a few with relevant form over the 1k distance. 2.41.9 against Downes shows he has him covered by around 50m here! The one to beat.
Conor Nunn (90m): Did he enter the wrong event? Handy runner but last 400m might be ugly if he starts.
Gordon Muir (90m): Strong return to form recently and will appreciate the extra distance. Hard to see him beating Kelly off level marks though.
Mark Hipworth (92m): Returning to form over the 1600m but 800m handicap is too tight to feature.
Greg Hilson (116m): Promising early season form over 800m but now appears to be going better over the shorter stuff. Look elsewhere.
Andrew Soltys (120m): Has showed real promise over 1600m this season but nothing as yet over the half mile. Suited to 1k and looks best off on handicaps of the frontmarkers. Should final.
Christopher Dixon (120m): Looks a fair way off his best form.
Christopher Brown (132m): Think the extra distance will find him out.
Tony Moran (138m): Extra distance makes him competitive, outside chance to final.
Chris Livitsanos (148m): Too far.
Peter Noden (148m): Before Ringwood I would have said the step up in distance would leave him with no chance. But 4.19 off 250m for the mile isn’t bad going off this handicap, strong chance to final.
Tony Rendina (170m): According to the VAL search engine last raced in 2009! 4.50 mile off 290m, so won’t be winning here unless he has hidden himself away for three years. Unlikely scenario.
Leon Brooks (176m): Tough as nails but that won’t count for much this time around.
Stefan Catalano (190m): No VAL distance points on offer for this one so unlikely starter.
Glen Weston (196m): Competitive if he reproduces 2006 form. Ebay all out of time machines unfortunately.
Emily Ryde (200m): Not sighted much this year. Likely to struggle if she runs.
Gary Blake (210m): Don’t think he’ll handle the extra distance but not the worst. 2.01 off 158m shows that he will run in the vicinity of 2.35. Chance to final.
Rebecca Cato (212m): 2.13 for 710m on track at Ringwood. Based on extra distance one would think she’ll run roughly 2.40 around the hair pin bends of St. Bernard’s. That won’t be good enough to final.
Matthew Goodger (250m): Still got a bit to learn about this running game before he’s competitive.

FINAL
Murphy (38m) 5th
Marantelli (42m) 4th
Deane (44m) 8th
Brennan (50m) 2nd
Bacalja (60m) 9th
Haigh (76m) 3rd
Kelly (90m) 1st
Muir (90m) 6th
Soltys (120m) 7th
Noden (148m) 10th

No doubt there will be scratchings, so I’m giving myself a few emergencies.
EMG
Gary Blake (210m)
Burrows (58m)
Moran (138m)

5 Re: St Bernards Marks on Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:24 pm

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Wow. What an impressive amount of work for an event which has very little value. Dizzy is very impressed.

Given your tips, there is decent chance that Kelly is sandwiched between 9 Hippo runners, 8 of which are chasing him down, and he may still beat them all.

This is shaping up as the race of the year. Someone bring a video camera.

6 Re: St Bernards Marks on Sat Mar 02, 2013 5:11 pm

wannabe


Anyone have any tips for the 300? i reckon pumper will be tough to beat as usual

7 Re: St Bernards Marks on Sat Mar 02, 2013 8:40 pm

Mex

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wannabe wrote:Anyone have any tips for the 300? i reckon pumper will be tough to beat as usual
Agreed.
There may be one veteran who doesn't have anyone to pull up behind. Hard to race to a front marker and stop behind them when you are the front marker I think Wink Unless he is waiting for all of the 'chocolates'

8 Re: St Bernards Marks on Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:34 pm

runningfan


Double Jeopardy wrote:The 1k handicaps seem to be calculated based on 800m marks. As a result, the winner is likely to come from someone who is currently competitive over 800m and will enjoy the distance increase.

Matt Grant (34m): Battling in 800s at the moment and won’t like distance increase. Ran Milers Club 1k in December and could only manage 2.39.7. Look to the 300m instead.
Justin Murphy (38m): Super competitive in 800s but has stayed away from the mile this season, so distance increase might hurt. If it was an 800m would start fav in this field so still likely to final and feature in the finish. Unless of course he decides to run the 300m W/V instead?
Michael Marantelli (42m): Little away from it in 800s at present but step up in distance suits. Ran 2.30.4 at Milers Club in same race as Grant. A run of a similar nature probably goes close to winning it but might not have that same speed at this point in time.
James Deane (44m): Has returned to his Stawell winning form of a few years back. Before the pull for winning Keilor probably would win, now the task becomes a little harder. Likely still to final.
Neil Brennan (50m): Showed great form in the 800m at Ballarat and then performed admirably in the Keilor 1600m, suggesting the step up in distance won’t be a problem. Certain finalist and strong winning chance.
Ian Burrows (58m): Yet to hit his straps so far this year but is starting to improve and one would think will be suited by the step up to 1000m. Chance to final.
Arron Downes (60m): 2.44.8 at Milers Club, unlikely to be in the finish based on that performance. Chances of reaching final likely to come down to how many litres of ice cream he puts away tonight. If he can stick to only a litre, will final, unfortunately I saw him exiting Coles with the 4L jumbo tub tucked under his arm.
Alex Bacalja (60m): An interesting one. Has struggled over 800m this season but is showing strong form over the longer stuff. Extra 200m puts him into finals contention but think the handicap is still a little tight.
Indiana Cooper (66m): Up and down season as you’d expect from a young kid. If he reproduces his Ringwood Novice form he’ll be competitive but appears to be a little out of his depth here.
Phillip O’Brien (76m): Showed promise early but has gone off the radar in recent times. Prefer others.
David Haigh (76m): Battling away in the 800m but is a definite smokey in the mile. As a result, can’t be discounted over 1k. In fact, he might just win. It is penalty free after all!
Joshua Sait (76m): Will enjoy the step up to 1k but still too short.
John Morris (88m): Cashed in early with some strong form in December / January. Since then, hasn’t improved at the same rate as his competitors.
Tom Kelly (90m): Like the three Hippo boys, one of only a few with relevant form over the 1k distance. 2.41.9 against Downes shows he has him covered by around 50m here! The one to beat.
Conor Nunn (90m): Did he enter the wrong event? Handy runner but last 400m might be ugly if he starts.
Gordon Muir (90m): Strong return to form recently and will appreciate the extra distance. Hard to see him beating Kelly off level marks though.
Mark Hipworth (92m): Returning to form over the 1600m but 800m handicap is too tight to feature.
Greg Hilson (116m): Promising early season form over 800m but now appears to be going better over the shorter stuff. Look elsewhere.
Andrew Soltys (120m): Has showed real promise over 1600m this season but nothing as yet over the half mile. Suited to 1k and looks best off on handicaps of the frontmarkers. Should final.
Christopher Dixon (120m): Looks a fair way off his best form.
Christopher Brown (132m): Think the extra distance will find him out.
Tony Moran (138m): Extra distance makes him competitive, outside chance to final.
Chris Livitsanos (148m): Too far.
Peter Noden (148m): Before Ringwood I would have said the step up in distance would leave him with no chance. But 4.19 off 250m for the mile isn’t bad going off this handicap, strong chance to final.
Tony Rendina (170m): According to the VAL search engine last raced in 2009! 4.50 mile off 290m, so won’t be winning here unless he has hidden himself away for three years. Unlikely scenario.
Leon Brooks (176m): Tough as nails but that won’t count for much this time around.
Stefan Catalano (190m): No VAL distance points on offer for this one so unlikely starter.
Glen Weston (196m): Competitive if he reproduces 2006 form. Ebay all out of time machines unfortunately.
Emily Ryde (200m): Not sighted much this year. Likely to struggle if she runs.
Gary Blake (210m): Don’t think he’ll handle the extra distance but not the worst. 2.01 off 158m shows that he will run in the vicinity of 2.35. Chance to final.
Rebecca Cato (212m): 2.13 for 710m on track at Ringwood. Based on extra distance one would think she’ll run roughly 2.40 around the hair pin bends of St. Bernard’s. That won’t be good enough to final.
Matthew Goodger (250m): Still got a bit to learn about this running game before he’s competitive.

FINAL
Murphy (38m) 5th
Marantelli (42m) 4th
Deane (44m) 8th
Brennan (50m) 2nd

Bacalja (60m) 9th
Haigh (76m) 3rd
Kelly (90m) 1st
Muir (90m) 6th
Soltys (120m) 7th
Noden (148m) 10th

No doubt there will be scratchings, so I’m giving myself a few emergencies.
EMG
Gary Blake (210m)
Burrows (58m)
Moran (138m)


Downes completed a hard training session before that 1km at Milers so ignore that time it is not a true indication of his capability.
Kelly to win if he wants it.
Mara to make top 3 if he runs his own race and doesn't get in a sit and kick style of race.

I am more interested in the times they run it in.

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