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Young Holly's dream run in Ballarat Gift

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1 Young Holly's dream run in Ballarat Gift on Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:30 am

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http://www.thecourier.com.au/story/1291999/young-hollys-dream-run-in-ballarat-gift/?cs=63

Young Holly's dream run in Ballarat Gift

By GAV MCGRATH
Ballarat Courier
Feb. 10, 2013


IT was a dream run for new Ballarat Women’s Gift champion Holly Dobbyn.

The 16-year-old became one of the youngest runners in the race’s 21-year history to win the Ballarat 120m Women’s Gift when she crossed the finish line in 14.27 seconds.

To make it even sweeter, Dobbyn’s friend and training partner Tara Domaschenz made it a quinella for the Ballarat Peter O’Dwyer running stable, just 0.14 seconds behind in second place.

Dobbyn is a Victorian junior 400m champion but said winning her home gift race was an even greater thrill.

“I was not expecting to win. It’s so exciting,” she said.

“To have my training buddy finish second, it’s just awesome.

“I wasn’t happy with my start. I tried really hard in the last 50m. It felt great.”

Off a mark of 8.25m Dobbyn finished second in her semi final behind Laura Jane Hilditch of Altona (14.34 sec) in what was the fastest of three semi finals.

She was joined in the Women’s Gift final by three other Ballarat-based sprinters: second semi-final winner Domaschenz (14.43 sec); third semi-final victor Kate Jones (14.38 sec) and Jacqueline McCann, who qualified by finishing second behind Jones.

Coach O’Dwyer said, with two runners in the finals, his chances of a winner were good.

“We knew (Dobbyn) was a show,” he said. “To get the quinella was a nice surprise.

“It’s great for Holly. To win your home town gift is something special.”

The strong tail wind favoured front markers throughout the day, making life tougher for the backmarkers to make up ground.

Fastest qualifier Hilditch, off 4.0m was third, with Jones fourth. McCann was eighth.

Dobbyn’s weekend started well when she won the 400m novice race on Saturday night in 45.50 seconds off a mark of 76m.

Domaschenz also had reason to celebrate, receiving her award as the 2012 Australian Athletic Confederation female sprinter of the year.

Last year Domaschenz won Australia’s richest women’s foot race, the Stonnington Gift, as well as the 400 women’s race at Stawell, the Ballarat Frontmarkers 400m and the Victorian Athletics 400m Broo series.

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Am i reading this article right a victorian womens 400m Champion won the Novice 400m off 76m?

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2nd year athlete, 15yo, 3rd in last year's final off 66m.
Wins a year later, 16yo state champion, off 76 in 45.5. Laughing

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Place Lane Colour Athlete No Athlete Name H'cap Time Adj Time
1 5 Green 6507 Jack DOOLEY 32.00 46.762 46.762 Completed
2 12 Blue-White 7284 Samuel BAIRD 20.00 48.137 48.137 Completed
3 3 Blue 7200 Chad RYAN 28.00 48.385 48.385 Completed
4 11 Red-White 7103 Danielle McDowell 87.00 48.938 48.938 Completed
5 2 White 6448 David FENOLLAR 26.00 49.321 49.321 Completed
6 8 Grey 7022 Holly Dobbyn 68.00 49.839 49.839 Completed

Results above from Maryborough on New Years Day 2013

Ballarat Gift Results 5 weeks later

Holly Dobbyn 76m 45.5 seconds

A 4.3 second improvement with an 8 metre lift, these novice races are laughable, faster than both the open f/m and b/m.

5 Re: Young Holly's dream run in Ballarat Gift on Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:22 pm

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Correct me if I'm wrong but have all 3 of these novice races this season been won in less than 47 seconds?

Bit stiff if you are running off the same mark in the novice and open, you would be more competitive in the open races it would seem!

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MCRUNNER you are quite right waste of time running in the novice races better to compete in the open 400m unless you are actually a novice where having a big mark will enable you to run in the pros and hopefully improve then compete in the open races.

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jknott123 wrote:MCRUNNER you are quite right waste of time running in the novice races better to compete in the open 400m unless you are actually a novice where having a big mark will enable you to run in the pros and hopefully improve then compete in the open races.



Novice races are just that....for young runners. It gives the handicapper and opportunity to assess young runner’s ability so they can be handicapped more accurately in open races.

I believe young Holly Dobbyn’s PB’s is 59.52sec she ran that to win the Under 15 Victorian State Little Ath’s 400m championships in Bendigo last year...and recently she ran 60.13 at the Vic country Champs ...all on synthetic.
She only ran 325m...what handicap should a 16 year old get with a PB of 59.52sec in a novice race.
I think there is no harm done here…she will be re handicapped for the final at Stawell if she makes it and the handicapper has a really good idea of her ability as she was clearly peaked and flat out at Ballarat her home town meeting.

8 Re: Young Holly's dream run in Ballarat Gift on Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:23 pm

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heres another scenario, another 16 year old girl who joins the pros and has run 66s for the 400m, after a couple of runs is put on 92m which makes her competetive is only 16m in front of someone who runs sub 60s, so what do you want a girl running 48? off 92m or a girl running 45? off 76m and then what about the guys that run.

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jknott123 wrote:Re Pro Track A Grader
heres another scenario, another 16 year old girl who joins the pros and has run 66s for the 400m, after a couple of runs is put on 92m which makes her competetive is only 16m in front of someone who runs sub 60s, so what do you want a girl running 48? off 92m or a girl running 45? off 76m and then what about the guys that run.


I’m not sure what point the above post is trying to make….but I think the handicapper is being quite clever here...

Novice races are a great tool for the handicapper...it enables them to throw runners around to assess their ability and see if they take the bait or hide.

Young Holly was given the bait and took the opportunity….a talented junior….not hiding...hard to hide winning a state title anyway.

Those that know girls 400m running would reasonably expect a 60 sec female runner to run 42 sec for 300m...What time would you expect a 60 sec female 400m runner, trained as a sprinter, to run a further 24-25m....

10 Re: Young Holly's dream run in Ballarat Gift on Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:14 am

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the point is simple novice races shouldn't be won in 45/46s thats my opinion

11 Re: Young Holly's dream run in Ballarat Gift on Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:43 am

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jknott123 wrote:the point is simple novice races shouldn't be won in 45/46s thats my opinion


That’s fine...depending on what you see as the purpose of novice races.... but it is good to see young runners running flat out and not hiding their ability...it results in far better handicapping in open races.

I have a personal view here and that is all novice races should also be u21, at the moment you can lose novice status by just winning a small round of a novice series and then be forced to run and be uncompetitive in open company.


Novice status should be applicable to a distance and young athletes should be required to win a novice or u21 race over that distance before being handicapped beyond the novice mark in open races....that would make handicapping fairer and easier.

12 Re: Young Holly's dream run in Ballarat Gift on Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:00 am

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a bit tough to have a young novice runner off 50m not able to win a novice but you want him to run off 20m in an open as there are only a few novice 400s i think the better value is to run regularly in the open 400m then the handicapper can handicap accordingly

13 Re: Young Holly's dream run in Ballarat Gift on Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:20 am

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I differ in opinion....

It would be self-fulfilling, if such a qualification were introduced, the demand for novice race would increase and they would be extremely competitive and attract large entries.

All clubs would hold them etc.....entry fees alone would contribute to larger prize money then currently available for these Novice races.

14 Re: Young Holly's dream run in Ballarat Gift on Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:06 pm

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I would love to see all clubs having a novice 400m it would make the handicappers job easier as they could run every week and we would get a lot more young runners joining as they know they would get a run each meeting over 400m

15 Re: Young Holly's dream run in Ballarat Gift on Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:11 pm

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jknott123 wrote:I would love to see all clubs having a novice 400m it would make the handicappers job easier as they could run every week and we would get a lot more young runners joining as they know they would get a run each meeting over 400m


Suppose your going to fork out the prize money each week?

16 Re: Young Holly's dream run in Ballarat Gift on Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:00 pm

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yes we could take some from the gift prizemoney that gets paid out

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