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Camden Heats

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1 Re: Camden Heats on Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:52 pm

Colin Rowston


A couple of changes to the Women's Classic marks: Amy Robb’s mark is 40m and Lynette Mattingly's mark is 26m

2 Re: Camden Heats on Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:56 pm

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I think the phone may have been running hot to the handicapper since marks were released.
My guess is that there were a few runners out there that were very worried.

3 Re: Camden Heats on Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:41 am

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I believe one of the girls ran a significant PB recently that was not declared. Lynette Mattingly ran 57.71 in a 400m at ASA interclub and I understand did not declare the performance.

Now I reckon I've heard the officials a few times this season, firmly advise athletes that it is imperative to declare all results, particularly PB's which need to be advised within 7 days & certainly before the next time the athlete competes. Gary Zeuner, in particular has stressed this point.

Lynette has been around this sport a long time so she should know the rules.

Just for the record her 57.71 equates to a 53.3, well inside the net time for the event which is 54.0.

If that was one of my athletes, I would be annoyed with the athlete or myself for not telling the handicapper of the PB.

I have no idea why Amy's mark has been reduced.


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4 Re: Camden Heats on Fri Feb 01, 2013 7:56 am

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I would say the penalty is for Amys win at Brighton.
Last year Yasmin copped a two metre penalty for the same win leading into Camden.
Im sure this was brought to the handicappers attention.
If the handicapper is going to pull you for Camden because you won $95 at Brighton I may suggest that the DROVERS DOG could win Brighton in coming years.
Run true and win $95 and get pulled 2m for Camden or run dead and stay on the same mark or get a lift ,what will it be.

5 Re: Camden Heats on Fri Feb 01, 2013 8:35 am

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I guess your other option is ,rather than run dead in the Brighton 400m is not run the 400m.
Looking back through the results ,the past two Womens Camden Classic winners havent run in the 400M at Brighton meeting.
May be corrected but at a quick glance this looks like the case.
Will this be the case this year ?

6 Re: Camden Heats on Fri Feb 01, 2013 8:49 am

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Yep no doubt Whispers, it was the Brighton win.

Amy did win comfortably at Brighton, she should still make the final.

This gets back to the anomaly in the programming with so little 400m races leading into Camden. Only one in the first 10 meetings makes it very difficult to frame the marks for Camden. The handicapper has little choice but to peg back the Brighton winner when there is no chance for another look at them.

There should have been a 400 at Sacred Heart.

I've also learned this morning that the ease of the Lynette Mattingly's 300m win at Whyalla and the PB, contributed to the re-handicap.

From what I've seen in SA this season, I think Mattingly will be the the first SA athlete home.


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7 Re: Camden Heats on Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:58 am

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youngy wrote:I believe one of the girls ran a significant PB recently that was not declared. Lynette Mattingly ran 57.71 in a 400m at ASA interclub and I understand did not declare the performance.

Now I reckon I've heard the officials a few times this season, firmly advise athletes that it is imperative to declare all results, particularly PB's which need to be advised within 7 days & certainly before the next time the athlete competes. Gary Zeuner, in particular has stressed this point.

Lynette has been around this sport a long time so she should know the rules.

Just for the record her 57.71 equates to a 53.3, well inside the net time for the event which is 54.0.

If that was one of my athletes, I would be annoyed with the athlete or myself for not telling the handicapper of the PB.

I have no idea why Amy's mark has been reduced.

I flat out agree that the athlete should at all times approach the handicapper once running a PB, especially in an event that is relevant to the upcoming carnivals. However I see Gary out at ASA meets almost every week, including the state relays with the stop watch, keeping a good eye on how some of the runners are travelling on the rubber.

Now this should NOT be an expectation on the handicapper (to have to go out to ASA meets), as I know they have better things to do no doubt. Gary is just attempting to go the extra mile. However, is it really that hard to go onto the ASA webiste the day after an ASA meet and see the following:

Women 400 Metre SEEDED
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Name Age Team Finals H#
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1 5 Rosie Kelly PEM 56.31 1
2 113 Leanne Hodge WD 56.73 1
3 341 Bridgid Connolly PEM 57.30 1
4 461 Lynette Mattingly TTG 57.71 1

This should be an expectation of the handicapper...because it's not that difficult! In a perfect system the athlete would tell the handicapper, however the handicapper would already know about the result.

8 Re: Camden Heats on Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:33 am

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Bit of a pattern forming with the girls Camden Classic.
Not sure about previous years but its now at least three years in a row that the Camden Classic winner has not run in the Glenelg /Brighton womens 400m in the same season.
Not taking anything away from the winner who copped a two metre penalty the year before for winning at Brighton, did the two metre penalty that Amy Robb received for winning the $95 first prize at Brighton in Dec cost her yesterday.

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