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PROTRACK » GENERAL » Which was the better performance?

Which was the better performance?

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1 Which was the better performance? on Sat Dec 29, 2012 8:20 pm

Colin Rowston

I was fortunate enough to be there when Joshua Ross won the Stawell Gift off scratch in 2005 and then when he won the Bay Sheffield off scratch in 2012. Both were extraordinary runs but I'm interested in what others think was the superior performance. Any thoughts?

2 Re: Which was the better performance? on Sat Dec 29, 2012 9:24 pm

No Chance

Colin didnt see the Stawell run, but after watching JRs Bay run live and on video i still cant believe it..i'm no expert but what else could he have done it looked perfect to me. Also need to pay tribute to Crawfords run pure guts into the wind on the home stretch..well done Benny.

3 Compare the Runs on Sat Dec 29, 2012 9:54 pm

John LeRay

I saw both. Forgetting the times,the Bay run was better. The Bay track is a public park - soccer, Cricket etc played almost daily, in particular the day before our big event on the hallowed turf. Turf is also a bit of a stretch compared to Stawell which is flatter, cut lower and rolled. Franky 'Les Burdett' McHughs Camden track is twice the prep of the Colley Bay track. Lastly, Stawell is sheltered compared to the Bay where the South Westerly blows all day. Josh probably came in to it when the wind did drop a bit for the final.

4 Re: Which was the better performance? on Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:27 am


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John -

Yes the winds were lighter for the final.

Lighter than the day before, lighter than last year, lighter than usual.

I think the lighter winds did two things -

(a) enabled a faster time by all runners

(b) made Josh's job harder because he had less time to catch and pass the field.

The lighter winds were still medium to strong head winds.

And it was a grass track, not stadium synthetic surface.

So I reckon it was a "virtual personal best" by Josh running 12.48 on 28th December 2012 at the 126th Bay Sheff, maybe equivalent to 10.0 on the track with ideal winds.

5 Re: Which was the better performance? on Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:23 pm


The class of runners in the final was alot better at the bay than that year at all, all of those boys in this years bay final would run sub 11 seconds
Outstanding performance.

6 Re: Which was the better performance? on Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:30 pm


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7 Re: Which was the better performance? on Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:43 pm


Testing my bad memory but Ross's 2004 Burnie Final win off scratch had a pretty classy field. Pretty sure Andrew McManus (Stawell, Bay & Botany Winner) came 2nd in white and went on to Olympic relay that year, Rod Buchanan (Bay winner and multiple Stawell finalist) came 3rd in Blue and I reckon Chris Tuohy (multiple Stawell finalist) and Andrew Wilcox were also in the final.

I can't remember the time or the handicaps but Ross stopped McManus from having the 4 slams in his keeping.

I ran in his heat at Latrobe and I doubt I was half way down the track before I was looking at his back!

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